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    120 gallon Dutch Planted something or another

    Update , sorry for outside dirty glass/poor depth of field I plan some new plant species to be added this week and removed lot of downoi due to good sale price offer it.
    So some new changes are on the way.




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    Shit man! Yealous!! Since you posted the pics, here are the questions
    - you have really cool Tonina's which species are they?
    - Is that the erio II ?
    - How much mmol is at the various places of your tank (at the substrate)
    - what Kelvin do you use for lighting (if more then 1, please specify all)
    - how is your lighting scenario (tubes/hours/day etc)

    Thanx
    Gilles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Barr View Post
    from left to right, what are the red plants please, and are there any specific requirements for them ? I have a low(ish) tech tank I am about to plant up. Colombo florabase substrate, 1.2wpg, 175L bare, will be dosing TPN+ and easycarbo to start with building up to EI ferts and pressurised CO2 in a few months time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Shit man! Yealous!! Since you posted the pics, here are the questions
    - you have really cool Tonina's which species are they?
    - Is that the erio II ?
    - How much mmol is at the various places of your tank (at the substrate)
    - what Kelvin do you use for lighting (if more then 1, please specify all)
    - how is your lighting scenario (tubes/hours/day etc)

    Thanx
    Gilles
    I just got some of the mini Lotus Tonina today actually. Pricy, but......they do branch better than these, the T fluv is a nice easy to grow species really, it must grow maybe 2" a week or more. The bunch is not uniform since I'm trying to get the stumps to sprout side shoots, about 5-6 have.
    This way I can fatten up the batch.

    No, that's Hydrothrix garderi, many think it's Erio setaceum. Erio Type 3 is about 2x as wide as Hydrothrix, which is much weedier than Erio's. The normal type of Erio Setaceum is about 1/2 the size of the Hydrothrix or if you see small stunted hydrothrix, they are about the same size, but growth pattern is different.

    The tank had about 65 mmol on the sediments, I've messed with the bulbs and have just gotten the ATI fixture 8x 54W, so that will be interesting.
    I'll only run light 8 hours, but 0-100% for two hours, 4 hours full blast, then 100-0% for 2 hours, which is about 5.5 hours total at full blast equailvalent.

    Likely be hitting 150mmol to 190mmol then.

    But not that long.........

    I've been playing with various bulb types and have stopped usign the Giesemann.
    I have some Aquawave purples(2), GE starcoat, and 2 giesemann aquafloras, and Geisemann Midday. I had mostly midday Gieseman prior.

    I like the color better now and have some ATI blue specials to add.

    But I'll pull the Tek Fixture down and sell that, then add thr ATI dimmer fixture tomorrow or Sat.

    I only run the light 8 hours on this tank.

    The ATI will add more light, but..........it will use less energy than LED's due to the spread and evenness and the dimmer controller functioning.

    Eg if I ran the LED's for say 9 hours, it might be equal to running this at say 6 hours.

    I like the plain old Erio cinerum for the CAM like succulent shape. They do extremely well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrivec View Post
    from left to right, what are the red plants please, and are there any specific requirements for them ? I have a low(ish) tech tank I am about to plant up. Colombo florabase substrate, 1.2wpg, 175L bare, will be dosing TPN+ and easycarbo to start with building up to EI ferts and pressurised CO2 in a few months time.
    Most of these red plants are actually pretty easy to grow.

    Ludwigia peruinesis
    Ludwigia "red"
    And Rotala macrandra in the back, there is also a little showing of the Ludwigia verticillata var pantanal.

    You might fair okay with some of them if the tank is shallow.
    Otherwise, wait till you get the CO2 gas tank and maybe 1 more bulb.

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    Hey tom, confused about your mmol readings. First you say you have 65mmol, then you say you might hit 150-190mmol.. Is the 65mmol NOW and the 150 before your fixture change, am i reading that correctly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilles View Post
    Hey tom, confused about your mmol readings. First you say you have 65mmol, then you say you might hit 150-190mmol.. Is the 65mmol NOW and the 150 before your fixture change, am i reading that correctly?
    This is just an estimation.........I have ATI fixtures on my 70 gallons...........this one will have 8x54W ATI.

    Since it is dimmer controlled........it'll start at 0umol....then rise to 100% after 2 hours.........then the umol will likely be about 150umol or more maybe.at the surface of this tank if I drop the fixture down to say 25cm above the water, if I raise it to say 35cm-40cm, a more typical distance for me, then 150 is likely.
    This will last for 4 hours and then taper off.
    65 umol is what I had before running the 4x 54W at 35cm.

    With all 8 firing..........I'd get about 120, so 150 is pretty conservative, more likely will be in the 170-200 range.
    A lot of light........

    But.........not for a long time..........I've also though of splitting it to allow for the CO2 to build back up like Florin's tank.
    But things are growing like mad.......so I'll likely just do as I do with the other tanks and not fuss over it.

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    Nice to see more folks -- especially you -- exploring what used to be known as the "noon burst" method.

    Kudos on tackling an Erio field, too. I don't think I've ever seen a nice field of the small guys.
    Last edited by Wet; 01-06-2012 at 07:45 AM.
    Let's all grow great tanks.

    petalphile.com

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    So you'll end up with 150 at the water level of the tank, and about 65 at the substrate level, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wet View Post
    Nice to see more folks -- especially you -- exploring what used to be known as the "noon burst" method.

    Kudos on tackling an Erio field, too. I don't think I've ever seen a nice field of the small guys.
    Huh?

    I did this 20 years ago..........

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