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    The light limiting growth management method

    One typical complaint about aquatic planted aquariums by both the seasoned experienced aquarist as well as the newbie is the rate of fast growth of aquatic plants and algae. How might we control this rate of growth logically based on how plants grow? Most want good healthy growth, but just not this fast!!! So what tools do we have available to manage the rate of growth, that also helps us manage the rate of growth of algae as well? Light intensity of course.

    This concept has been around for some time (but has not been really looked at critically) and states: non limiting CO2 and nutrient allow for the maximum light use efficiency at lower light intensity. Since if the CO2 and nutrients are non limiting, thus independent of influencing any reduction of growth, light will be the only factor that will control growth. This simple test is able to look at light's effects on aquatic plant growth much better than dependencies typical with many aquarists' planted aquariums that might be limiting nutrients or CO2.

    Light is much more stable than CO2 or any nutrients: we can control light very easily, CO2 ppms and nutrient concentrations can move around considerably. Light is very stable on the other hand. Bulbs can be added or reduced, timed, metal screen can be added to reduce intensity to suit, PAR light meters are very simple and easy to use and testing is rarely done more than once every few years for bulb decay. Open top and suspension style lights can be adjusted to adjust the light intensity to suit any growth management desire/goal the aquarist might have.

    Tropica's web site has a good effective article on the use of light and CO2 management for aquarist.
    They also suggest lower light and good CO2 in their conclusion.

    CO2 can also be used to reduced growth as well, but this limitation is harder to measure and control without going to a pure non CO2 addition method. Many plant species are poor competitors for CO2 and do poorly in mix communities, thus we cannot keep as many species using that method.

    This is large trade off if we chose CO2 to reduce rates of growth.
    Likewise, some plant species do better at lower nutrients than others.

    However, most plants are fairly similar to their lower ranges of light above a certain minimum level.
    This appears to be about 30micromoles/m^2/sec, there are plants that can still grow at less than 1/2 this amount, but most will do well and grow slow at 30. A range of 30-50 is suitable for most systems for slow, very easy to manage growth.
    This also reduces algae growth since they are only limited by light and never nutrients or CO2 in planted tanks.

    It also reduces the amount of energy required to grow plants, initial cost of adding more and more lighting.
    This increase in extra light cost aquarist a lot of $ over time.

    If a kW/hr is 12 cents, and the light for a 100 gallon tank is say 2x what is required to achieve 50 micromols, say 2w/gal compared to 4 w/gal, and the total is 200W vs 400 W, then 200 W x 10 hour day X 365 days a year = ~88$ a year of wasted energy, algae issues, issues with CO2 that are typically not an issue etc.

    Some aquarist want to garden more during sometimes of the year or when their motivation is high, some want to reduce it due to other aspects of their life, vacations etc. If we use a bank of several light bulbs on different switches, we can adjust the intensity to suit most any goal. Many aquarist know they want nice growth that's healthy for their goal, but not weedy fast growing plants they have to prune often.

    Low light is ideally suited for that goal.
    Since we know light drives CO2 uptake, which drives nutrient uptake, using less light provides far more wiggle room and resiliency to management of both O2 and nutrients. Everything is much easier to care for.
    This makes any goal of sustainability and stability much better. This is based on the holistic model of how a plant grows.

    I would suggest aquarist try to manage a tank and slowly reduce their light intensity down.
    A meter may be borrowed in many cases to target the lower ranges we know are effective. While we may be able to go even lower, 40 micromoles seems like a good range with enough cushion on the lower end and still without proving difficult or producing weedy growth.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr

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    Tom,

    Nice article. I have found lowering my light has been easier to manage overall. Thanks!

    A meter may be borrowed in many cases to target the lower ranges we know are effective
    My offer to loan my Apogee PAR meter is still open.....There is a thread around somewhere.

    PM me if interested...
    Thanks,

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    @gerryd; do you ship to the netherlands?

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    Cool Sub 30

    Hi All,

    Great article!

    A year ago, heck six months ago, I never would have believed lowering the light was so incredibly effective.

    I have Lanceolota, Aponogeton Natans, Anubias Afzelii and some Nana all happily growing in sub 30 umol, some around 20. Lots of Sagittaria subulata at 30-35 umol. Low maintenance, low everything.

    Biollante
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    Disclaimer: I am not trying to make you mad, it is just what I am, an evil plant monster, 'nuf said.
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    • I assume you are of legal age, competent and it is legal for you to acquire, possess and use any materials or perform any action in your in your jurisdiction.
    • When in doubt "don't."

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    For people not having a PAR meter, like me, my tank is doing extremely well with 11W PC light at 6in above surface, on a 12 gal tank. That's 0.9wpg light. My glosso is at the bottom opposite lateral side from light, partely hidden by moss and floating cerato. Where my glosso is growing is really dark. It is carpetting so well and so slowly. Pogostemon helferi is great looking and also my anubia nana petite. My R. Wallichii is red, but under the light directly.

    I dose half EI but CO2 is a mist via the atomizer and very stable.

    I don't have a PAR meter, but I think I'm very low on the micromoles. So, CO2 is really the key, and low light gives a really pleasant low maintenance low problems tank, yet having all plants you like growing very healthy
    Aquatic Natur Cocoon 7: 11gal, dry start success / low light / CO2
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    Most people here in Thailand refrain from using low light.
    They are afraid their stem plants will go leggy.

    Is 30 umol OK for stem plants?
    I don't have experience in stem plants except
    heteranthera zosterifolia which doing somewhat OK
    (no leggy) in low light.

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    I grow stems in low light no problem; so do all the big names.

    The trick is spread; multiple spaced out low watt lights. Current is invaluable as well, in fact there's a good study floating around (don't have it handy) showing that current reduces internodal space.

    The real problem is a sudden reduction in light, which usually goes right along with a reduction in the number of bulbs, and therefor spread. Sudden low light coming only from above will cause shedding issues lower down on the stem and bigger gaps between nodes IME.
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    Smile Bingo! As "They" Do Say

    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophos View Post
    I grow stems in low light no problem; so do all the big names.

    The trick is spread; multiple spaced out low watt lights. Current is invaluable as well, in fact there's a good study floating around (don't have it handy) showing that current reduces internodal space.

    The real problem is a sudden reduction in light, which usually goes right along with a reduction in the number of bulbs, and therefor spread. Sudden low light coming only from above will cause shedding issues lower down on the stem and bigger gaps between nodes IME.
    Hi Dan, All,

    Yes as with all changes lighting needs to be reduced in steps. This is where shade cloth, screens or that neat trick Nipat had with tissue paper is important.

    Another technique to lower lighting is the addition of floating plants or my favorite Lotus that grow and take over the surface, this seems to allow the plants to adapt as the light lowers.

    The big surprise (and I am from Surprise ) for me was not only aren't the stem plants leggy, if anything as Dan pointed out, they are more compact.

    Biollante
    The first sign we don't know what we are doing is an obsession with numbers. - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    Disclaimer: I am not trying to make you mad, it is just what I am, an evil plant monster, 'nuf said.
    • I believe the information I am giving is sound, I am not a veterinarian, professional chemist or particularly bright and certainly not a "Guru.".
    • I assume you are of legal age, competent and it is legal for you to acquire, possess and use any materials or perform any action in your in your jurisdiction.
    • When in doubt "don't."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nipat View Post
    Most people here in Thailand refrain from using low light.
    They are afraid their stem plants will go leggy.

    Is 30 umol OK for stem plants?
    I don't have experience in stem plants except
    heteranthera zosterifolia which doing somewhat OK
    (no leggy) in low light.
    Yes, many are under this assumption, not just in your country, but most other countries as well.
    I think this will take a long time to remove such preceptions such as excess nutrients or PO4 will lead to algae.

    These same folks where also the same ones that suggested that adding excess increased the risk of algae when the hypothesis failed on it's own. But they do not see the correlation between high excess light and algae?

    Rubbish.

    If you already have higher excess light, then reducing it is easy and offers no risk because you can simply revert back to high light.
    If they are unwilling to test, then they need to not offer people advice based soley on their inepxierence and ignorance, no matter how nice their aquarium might look, if they have not tried it and done so a few times, then something is wrong there.
    So this risk issue is not realistic at all. At worst their plants get leggy, pale etc. They bump th elight up just a little bit, then again till they have non leggy growth and good color. Thois seems to be about 30-40micromols for most plant "high demanding" species.
    If the growth is compact etc and nice color, and I have low light, then somethign else must be at the root of their leggy growth other than just light. There must be some other cause they have not accounted for.

    I've measured and used a PAR meter to answer how low we can go within reason. So it's a fairly concrete range, number, parameter.

    It takes 1-2 weeks for most plants to gear up and switch to lower light. If you start off with low light, then there is rarely any issue. Plants need a lot of Carbon and Nitrogen to gear up for lower light. If these are added in non limiting amounts, the plant shoudl adapt very well.

    Many aquarist think less is better with respect to nutrients, often waste time testing and fiddling with nutrient ppm's, hardly pay attention to CO2 as much as they likely should and then want to add too much light and do not bother to test light. This is backwards.
    Then complain about stunted tips and algae.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr

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    Laying metal window screen works well and will not burn unlike cloth and tissue paper.
    You simply add another layer to reduce the intensity step wise.

    Cheap, widely available, cut to size.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr

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