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    Dry start: My first attempt on a 11gal nano

    Hi,

    Thanks to the help and tips of Tom, Philosophos and many other members that helped me choosing the light... I could start my first nano, dry, on teh 27 june, so 2 weeks ago

    Soil is mix of earthworm casting (bio label) + Flourite Black Sand, topped with Flourite Black Sand

    Light is 2x11W ArcPod PC light

    Tank is an Aquatic-Nature cocoon 7 (11 gal rectangular)

    The plants are doing very well and I didn't have yet any trouble with the Tenellus. The Cryptocoryne Parva didn't melt and the P. Helferi is already growing. I also chose plants that were just arrived to the shop from Dennerle, so emerged growing and easier to acclimate to a dry start

    Humidity is maintained near 80-85%







    Aquatic Natur Cocoon 7: 11gal, dry start success / low light / CO2
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    Aquatlantis Evasion 120: Stopped ---> Malawi setup = No Plants

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    And, now, after 15 days (sorry, but front view is difficult because of condensation that I can't remove fearing to alter the glass with some sand)






    The recipient is to help maintain good humidity. And 2 calibrated Hygrometers to monitor hygrometry reliabely
    Aquatic Natur Cocoon 7: 11gal, dry start success / low light / CO2
    >>Follow it here<<

    Aquatlantis Evasion 120: Stopped ---> Malawi setup = No Plants

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    I don't remember seeing anyone try a dry start with those plants. They look great now! This will be very interesting to watch for the next few weeks.
    Hoppy

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    Looks like the dry start method is working very well for you. I might just have to give it a try.

    Good to see the E. tenellus looking healthy; it certainly goes well with the P. helferi.

    -Philosophos

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    Cool!

    Great photos!

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    Thank you for the comments,

    I chose those plants because I'm targetting a low maintenance shrimp tank. I'll use CO2 though. I renounced to use Excel because of safety concerns raising on some forums

    Stems, anubia, java fern and other crypts will not be grown emersed as I have them growing in my main 60gal

    I'm especially happy to see the parva and tenellus so healthy after 2 weeks. I saw other expieriences with tenellus rotting very quickely and C. Parva melting.

    It suerely helps starting the tank in summer as it is easier to maintain constant temperature/ventilation/humidity. Also, using my cycled aquarium water rich of NPK-micro and mulm from it helps the plants to establish for sure

    I'm still waiting for new emerged leaves though to be sure I'm on the good way
    Aquatic Natur Cocoon 7: 11gal, dry start success / low light / CO2
    >>Follow it here<<

    Aquatlantis Evasion 120: Stopped ---> Malawi setup = No Plants

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    Excel (glutaraldehyde) is something you can get along without just fine. It isn't so dangerous as people make it seem though. Most problems happen when people ignore established dosing ranges, and don't bother to check how sensitive the species they keep are to the chemical.

    Glutaraldehyde can be used to increase hatch rates at one level, and sterilize them at another. It's a matter of dose. You don't need to worry about cumulative effects of excel either; it's got a half life around 11 hours.

    Again, not saying it's necessary to use it, but it can be a helpful product. Spot treating algae on hardscape that can't be moved without disturbing plants is usually how I end up using it.

    -Philosophos

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    There's a long debate, now locked, on UKAPS about its safety for human on the long term

    I don't like to debate it here, in this topic, especially as the silence from seachem and other companies using such product is complete.

    Here's the UKAPS link:
    UK Aquatic Plant Society Forum &bull; Login

    You can read through it and, if you like, open a new topic on these concerns maybe
    Aquatic Natur Cocoon 7: 11gal, dry start success / low light / CO2
    >>Follow it here<<

    Aquatlantis Evasion 120: Stopped ---> Malawi setup = No Plants

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    Hi,


    I have a big issue that I need your help. I'll submerge the tank in about 2 months and wondering about the placement.

    I'd like to put it facing 2 big french windows, so consistent direct daylight, but no direct sun light. I'll be going for pressurized CO2, yet with my rather low 2x11W PC lights and slow growing plants.

    Do you think placing such a setup in front of these french windows is asking for trouble on the submerging phase?

    Otherwise, emerged foliage is getting denser on the Helferi, tenellus is sending shoots with new leaves and the Parva is still so beautiful, no melting
    Aquatic Natur Cocoon 7: 11gal, dry start success / low light / CO2
    >>Follow it here<<

    Aquatlantis Evasion 120: Stopped ---> Malawi setup = No Plants

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    Light gets a little tricky when it comes to outside sources. Outside of finding access to a PAR meter, about all you can do is eyeball it, and adjust. A lux meter would be cheaper to get your hands on, and it would allow you to at least compare one level of light to a previous amount.

    -Philosophos

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