Thanks all. The distance to the bottom of the aquarium was the one that was bugging me. 4x96w (384watts) over this tank seems a lot and expensive but I found a lighting company here localy that has 6' and 3' flourescent bulbs at 4100k and 6500k. So 4x the 6' and 4x the 3' are 324w. I think thats enough to keep internode distance close on the hydrilla and najas and lots cheaper. I'm figuring about $200 for all. If you use MH or VHO you're looking at $400 plus...Jim :gw
[Edit] Just got some pics from the guy who does Al Konings site. Maybe there is a Moss (kinda like Java) afterall. Also there are apparantly several species of Lotus. I'm excited at least....Jim(on the hunt for the mysterious elusive plant material from The Lake!)
