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    I am about to aquire a Jewell Trigon 350. The original plan was to turn this into a planted tank but I may have to modify my plans as the tank comes with 6 very large discus.

    The lighting has been modified to T5's and should be adequate at 2w per gallon. My main concern is that discus need a higher temperature than most plants like.

    I know that giant vallis will survive but what else. It's a super as new tank but I want lots of greenery in there as well as fish. Any help or advice as usual will be appreciated.

    Ian
    Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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    Re: Discus and the planted tank

    Hey Ian.

    I know most sword plants do well in higher temp. also plants like java fern/anubias will do fine..

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    • #3
      Re: Discus and the planted tank

      Ian, if you've entered into some Faustian deal and have to keep the Discus, fine, otherwise, I'd lose them in a heartbeat. It's like keeping a St Bernie or
      Newfoundland in your prize flower garden....up to you.

      Bill

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      • #4
        Re: Discus and the planted tank

        Originally posted by JadeButterfly
        Hey Ian.

        I know most sword plants do well in higher temp. also plants like java fern/anubias will do fine..
        Thanks Jade. I was thinking swords as well.

        Ian
        Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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        • #5
          Re: Discus and the planted tank

          Originally posted by bill ruyle
          Ian, if you've entered into some Faustian deal and have to keep the Discus, fine, otherwise, I'd lose them in a heartbeat. It's like keeping a St Bernie or
          Newfoundland in your prize flower garden....up to you.

          Bill
          Thanks Bill, the thought of getting rid has crossed my mind. Especially after the prices I've seen them sold at. I have to admit that there is a bit of a guilt thing attached.

          6 six inch discus anyone?..................serious offers only.

          Ian
          Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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          • #6
            Re: Discus and the planted tank

            I picked up several 1/2" discus at Christmas from Fairy Lake ($8.00 each and he threw one more in for free!) and put them in my planted tank. I upped the temp to 82o (although I want to bring it back down to 80) - they are doing fine, and so are the plants (with the exception of a little BGA that keeps coming back).

            Plants that are doing well for me include:
            Hairgrass,
            Tiger lotus (started with one, now I have three)
            Telenthera,
            Wysteria
            Riccia,
            Rotala Indica
            And something someone gave me (but I don't know what it is, how do I post a picture to the forum?)

            Plants that I've had trouble with (and I don't believe this was heat related, but related to the reason I got BGA to begin with):
            Rotala Macrandra (melted),
            Pearlgrass.

            I had a couple of swords, but they take up too much room so I'm not their biggest fan and so I got rid of them.

            Oh, and the discus are a good 4" now and goergeous (where is my damn dictionary ).

            - Jeff

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            • #7
              Re: Discus and the planted tank

              Thanks Jeff, the guy I am buying from runs his tank at 86. I could try 82 maybe?

              Ian
              Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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              • #8
                Re: Discus and the planted tank

                Originally posted by bill ruyle
                Ian, if you've entered into some Faustian deal and have to keep the Discus, fine, otherwise, I'd lose them in a heartbeat. It's like keeping a St Bernie or
                Newfoundland in your prize flower garden....up to you.

                Bill
                Are you saying that discus will rip up/eat plants? Never heard of this. I have discus in a 200l heavily planted tank and have never seen them touch the plants .

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                  Re: Discus and the planted tank

                  What plants do you have Laith, and at what temperature? Please.

                  Ian
                  Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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                  • #10
                    Re: Discus and the planted tank

                    I currently have Crypt. lutea & wendetti, E. bleheri, E. tenellus, Hygrophila difformis, Anubias barteri nana, E. foxtail, E. stellata, Sagittaria pusilla, Rotala rotundifolia, Hygrophila corymbosa Kompakt, Hygrophila corymbosa glabra, Limnophila sessiliflora and Alternanthera reineckii.

                    Tank temp varies between 27C and 28.5C.

                    I've had issues with some of the plants but due to deficiencies, not temperatures. And definitely not due to the three Discus.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Discus and the planted tank

                      Thanks Laith, that's a good range of plants but are the discus OK at that temperature?

                      Ian
                      Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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                      • #12
                        Re: Discus and the planted tank

                        Originally posted by Laith
                        Are you saying that discus will rip up/eat plants? Never heard of this. I have discus in a 200l heavily planted tank and have never seen them touch the plants .
                        No, but they like to eat, and then, they like to excrete Basically, I have a
                        problem with scale: for them to look small would require a much larger tank
                        than a 100 gallon. I would find big colorful dinnerplates swimming around in
                        my 'scape to be subtractive. Some of course, like them, just like some people
                        like St Bernies, Newfoundlands, Irish Wolfhounds, etc. Give me smaller, shoaling fish anytime. YMMV,

                        Bill

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                        • #13
                          Re: Discus and the planted tank

                          Originally posted by bill ruyle
                          Basically, I have a problem with scale: for them to look small would require a much larger tank than a 100 gallon. I would find big colorful dinnerplates swimming around in my 'scape to be subtractive. Some of course, like them, just like some people like St Bernies, Newfoundlands, Irish Wolfhounds, etc. Give me smaller, shoaling fish anytime.
                          Is this another Amano influence gone awry? He made that comment about several tanks in the AGA competition - that the tank didn't look 'big'. I'm heading the other way and have lost interest in the little nervous fish, which is why I'm going to put three large goldfish in my 90 gallon. The bigger fish just have more 'character'. But to each his own...

                          TW

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                          • #14
                            Re: Discus and the planted tank

                            Originally posted by Tom Wood
                            Is this another Amano influence gone awry?
                            No, it is only coincidental that he and I share the same when it comes to
                            aesthetics

                            I'm heading the other way and have lost interest in the little nervous fish, which is why I'm going to put three large goldfish in my 90 gallon.
                            Well, the spell is woven then...

                            The bigger fish just have more 'character'. But to each his own...

                            TW
                            It's a given that you're a character, TW, so naturally your fish would reflect
                            same

                            I like little nervous fish that school, boy, you rilly hurt my feelings....NOT.

                            Bill

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                            • #15
                              Re: Discus and the planted tank

                              As it happens the deal with the tank and big discus there are included 15 cardinal and 25 rummy nose tetras. So maybe it's the best of both worlds.

                              I just want some interesting plants in there as well.

                              Ian
                              Thread and now (ex)ALGAE Killer :gw

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