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  • Gerry's Regulator Build Clone

    Hi all,

    I still like to work with my hands a bit and Matt's work on my reg build has me wanting to try my own..

    So, I am basically CLONING the build he is doing for me now..Same reg, solenoid, post body, etc.

    Here is the parts list from post #79 in this thread:

    http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...d-thread/page8

    I have all but the swagelok parts and the NV ordered already. NV will be Monday at min and swagelok next week. No hurry. I will do all brass again except for the reg...All brand new parts again...I want to be set with two quality rigs that should last a lifetime. Well at least Matt's will be quality....

    I have to wait a bit until the parts come in due to 2 week lead time on the check valve, but that give Matt time to build mine and document it

    I can compare my build to his so I can at least see where I go wrong lol

    With the parts list he placed in my thread, it took about 10-15 minutes to find and order all the parts...

    I will post pics of all parts as well as the build.

    I think it will be fun. May as well do it now while I can....
    Last edited by Gerryd; 02-06-2011, 03:55 AM.
    Thanks,

    Gerry.

    'When something's not right, it's wrong'. Bob Dylan

    Current 220 scape

    http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...3219-220-video

  • #2
    I've been lurking. I ordered everything the day before yesterday and hope to assemble on February 14. A Valentine's Day gift to me!
    125G Planted Tropheus / Epiphyte: 9hr 156W T5's; KH12; CO2 inj; UGJ's supplied by an Eheim 1262; Eheim 2128 filter; automated WC system; Aquacontroller Jr..

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    • #3
      Cool. I had a feeling you would be posting soon....

      Are you doing the same basic build?
      Thanks,

      Gerry.

      'When something's not right, it's wrong'. Bob Dylan

      Current 220 scape

      http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...3219-220-video

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      • #4
        This is great. I'm glad you all are buidling your own regulators with quality components.

        All you'll need tool wise is two quality adjustable wrenches (I use an 6" and 8"). Cheap wrenches can slip and cause damage.

        Teflon tape and non-hardening thread sealer.

        I use q-tips to clean off the excess and a clean shop rag to wipe of any residual.

        If you buy and build a used regulator, I strongly suggest air tools.

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        • #5
          Here are some other helpful DIY links:
          How to build a Victor VTS 253A-1993:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...r-VTS253a-1993

          How to wire your own Burkert type 6011 solenoid:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...-6011-solenoid

          How to install a CGA 320 on a used Victor HPT 500:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...used-regulator

          How to prep a used Victor HPT270 for a post body kit:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...or-a-post-body

          Why gas flow direction is important when installing a Burkert solenoid:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...eventing-leaks

          How to build a Victor SGT 500: (90* output regulator)
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...-500-Regulator
          Happy reading.

          How to adjust your Ideal Valve:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...ur-Ideal-Valve

          How to use Swagelok Tube Fittings:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...-tube-fittings

          DSR: Total Conversion From JBJ BUbble Counter to Swagelok Tube Adapter:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...k-Tube-Fitting

          Gerryd's DSR Build:
          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...r-build-thread

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          • #6
            The same, except I'm using a B-2C-1/3 CV mnpt to a B-2HCG hex coupling. This is per Matt's thread on converting from a bubble counter to a tube fitting.

            What happened to the interest in the Buna seals? Or, why are we getting the Vitron?
            125G Planted Tropheus / Epiphyte: 9hr 156W T5's; KH12; CO2 inj; UGJ's supplied by an Eheim 1262; Eheim 2128 filter; automated WC system; Aquacontroller Jr..

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cyclesafe View Post
              The same, except I'm using a B-2C-1/3 CV mnpt to a B-2HCG hex coupling. This is per Matt's thread on converting from a bubble counter to a tube fitting.

              What happened to the interest in the Buna seals? Or, why are we getting the Vitron?
              Buna Seals are awesome for CO2. Viton is also a good material. Both are made by dupont. Buna-N is actually cheaper to make than Viton, too!
              Buuna-N is nitrile (like the gloves).

              I doubt we will ever see a difference in service life between the two.

              The Buna-N sealed solenoid is a special order version of the type 6011, which Left C has made available to us. Until he worked out a deal with FreshwaterSystems.com, the typical lead time was many weeks. I ordered mine prior to the freshwater systems option.

              I have both viton and buna-n sealed burkerts, and I can't tell the difference.

              The aquariumplants.com solenoid (viton seal) comes with a pre-installed cord. This saves time and an extra few steps. It's plug and play. For $48, iirc, you get the 2506 DIN and the cord for the price of the solenoid alone at other sites.

              I assume you got the Swagelok B-2c2-1/3 check valve?

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              • #8
                Thanks for all the hard work!

                Originally posted by Matt F. View Post
                I assume you got the Swagelok B-2c2-1/3 check valve?
                Yes. My bad. These numbers give me a pain, but I guess there's no way around that kind of system.

                Matt, what you Left C, Gerryd, and others have done in documenting this build process is to make something easy out of what was very intimidating. Without the threads and discussions, it would have been impossible for me to assemble a state-of-the-art regulator. Instead I would have bought something touted as "supreme" - only to find out later that it wasn't. The regulator I had from before was promoted as "deluxe", but when it was officially deemed junk(post #15), permission was granted from the boss to drop coin for a new one. Thanks Tom!

                But the collection of threads written by Matt are really appreciated. I feel guilty, kinda like jumping a queue, in tasting the fruits of all the labor without as much a howdy doo! So, I want you to know I am in your debt and I hope to be able to reciprocate soon.
                125G Planted Tropheus / Epiphyte: 9hr 156W T5's; KH12; CO2 inj; UGJ's supplied by an Eheim 1262; Eheim 2128 filter; automated WC system; Aquacontroller Jr..

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                • #9
                  Cyclesafe-

                  Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad the threads I have written help out. I just wanted to show that there is no mysticism to this process. It's very easy to do if you have the right tools and take your time.

                  Left C has done an amazing amount of research. He's the one who really started this movement-- a movement that provides us with a high quality alternative to the kaka on the market today. Tom has also been a proponent of high quality dual stage regulators and equipment. You can't post this type of info anywhere w/o people getting bent out of shape. This is a special site.

                  About your builds (back to the topic):

                  Be prepared to either have a vice or access to air tools. You will need to remove the stock tube adapter on the new VTS253A-1993. These are either glued or lock-tite(ed) in.

                  You can see my VTS253A-1993 thread to see what I am talking about.

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                  • #10
                    To remove the OEM hose adapter, I used a 9/16" deep socket, which got me to this point:


                    The whole thread is listed above in a prior post.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Matt F. View Post

                      Teflon tape and non-hardening thread sealer.
                      Hi Matt,

                      Do you use both or one or the other ? I have found that the tape works better for me.
                      "Ich Hatte Einen Kameraden"

                      "In the Shadow of Hermes"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Matt F. View Post

                        Teflon tape and non-hardening thread sealer.
                        Hi Matt,

                        Do you use both or one or the other ? I have found that the tape works better for me.
                        "Ich Hatte Einen Kameraden"

                        "In the Shadow of Hermes"

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                        • #13
                          Hi all,

                          Found my new regulator on my doorstep just now.....

                          Am leaving in the box until all other parts come in...am in no hurry with my new build soon to come...
                          Thanks,

                          Gerry.

                          'When something's not right, it's wrong'. Bob Dylan

                          Current 220 scape

                          http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...3219-220-video

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by barbarossa4122 View Post
                            Hi Matt,

                            Do you use both or one or the other ? I have found that the tape works better for me.
                            Tape is needed on the high pressure connections as well as the regulator body connection points. Non hardening thread sealer is fine for post body components.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks again Matt.
                              "Ich Hatte Einen Kameraden"

                              "In the Shadow of Hermes"

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