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  • Just had TWO parker solenoid valves die on me in one day!

    Best I can figure is something in the coil crapped out. I bought two, when the first one died I just swapped the coil. That worked again for a while and now that one is dead too. Crap.
    "Do, then talk about it.
    No do? No talk!!" - Tom Barr

  • #2
    That's wierd AND stinks...

    Do you have a third, or what are you doing now?

    Knock wood, I have never had even a bad solenoid..... YET
    Thanks,

    Gerry.

    'When something's not right, it's wrong'. Bob Dylan

    Current 220 scape

    http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...3219-220-video

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gerryd View Post
      .... Knock wood .... YET

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      • #4
        I had one go bad but that was a Clippard. It really never did work properly. Anyway, I bought one of those Ebay Parker Solenoids and it has been absolutely rock solid. I was convinced it was way better than the Clippard but, maybe not. I was thinking of buying a spare Parker since the price is right but, maybe I'll just take my chances with the one I have.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gerryd View Post
          what are you doing now?
          I'm using a magnet to hold the valve open. I'll have to manually control the thing till I figure something out.
          "Do, then talk about it.
          No do? No talk!!" - Tom Barr

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          • #6
            I just noticed this in the ebay listing for these parker solenoids we're all buying:

            As is the custom at such sales, most of the box labels were removed prior to the time we received the shipment. Thus, we never found a comprehensive label that we could photograph, and we do not know the exact "Parker" part number. Somebody missed enough label shreds, however, so that we can tell you the maximum ambient operating temperature for continuous duty is 68F, maximum fluid temperature is 180F, response time is 8 to 16 milliseconds, cycles per minute is 600, body is 303 Stainless, and the coil encapsulant material is nylon. The seals are Buna-N (aka Nitrile and NBR) which would make them compatible with air, inert gases, water, alcohols, and petroleum-based oils and fuels.
            68*F max ambient temp for continuous duty?! That's no good. Tells me the coils can't deal with heat well at all or aren't really meant to be used in continuous duty they way we need. Just based on my experience, I gotta give these valves a thumbs down for us.
            "Do, then talk about it.
            No do? No talk!!" - Tom Barr

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            • #7
              Is it even worth wiring the Parker or should I just look for a new solenoid?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Oreo View Post
                Best I can figure is something in the coil crapped out. I bought two, when the first one died I just swapped the coil. That worked again for a while and now that one is dead too. Crap.
                I forgot to mention this. But have you tried contacting the seller, sherrodsurplus? He made good on someone's that went bad on TPT.

                What do you think of the Bürkert solenoids?

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                • #9
                  I haven't bought a burkert yet. I also haven't contacted SherrodSurplus yet either. I probably should on both accounts but I've been kinda busy around the house lately and with family obligations. Haven't had a chance to sort this one out yet. I did buy a replacement coil with a proper power cord (not a heat-shrink home-brew job) on ebay. I'm hoping that works. Truth is, I completely disassembled one of the faulty valves just to see the internal build quality. The "pressure vessle", aka the stainless valve is constructed beautifully. GLA's valves have nothing on the Parkers. We're just buying the wrong coil.
                  "Do, then talk about it.
                  No do? No talk!!" - Tom Barr

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Oreo View Post
                    I haven't bought a burkert yet. I also haven't contacted SherrodSurplus yet either. I probably should on both accounts but I've been kinda busy around the house lately and with family obligations. Haven't had a chance to sort this one out yet. I did buy a replacement coil with a proper power cord (not a heat-shrink home-brew job) on ebay. I'm hoping that works. Truth is, I completely disassembled one of the faulty valves just to see the internal build quality. The "pressure vessle", aka the stainless valve is constructed beautifully. GLA's valves have nothing on the Parkers. We're just buying the wrong coil.
                    Do you have any more information on the proper power cord and coil for these Parkers?

                    Thanks

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                    • #11
                      That's very interesting. Do you have a link to the coil and powercord that you ordered? What do you look for to find replacement coils for them? Are Buna-N seals long lasting with CO2 use? I'm lost. LOL

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                      • #12
                        Yes, Buna-N is fine with CO2. They use Buna-N O-rings on paint ball CO2 bottles.

                        Well I did some research on Parker solenoid valves and found that their current product line uses a modular design. Basically, they have different "pressure vessels" depending on what inlet / outlet size & PSI requirements you have, and then they have different coils depending on what electrical requirements you have. For any given pressure vessel there are a selection of probably five or so different coils that will work. I just need to figure out which ones will physically fit. From the catalog it wasn't 100% clear so I tried calling one of Parker's distributors but never got a return call. During the first conversation though the rep couldn't find any listed info on the valve we're buying on ebay. None of the numbers come up in their system. I suspect it was a custom designed coil (not pressure vessel) for a commercial customer and not part of their normal product line.

                        Anyway, the coil I bought on ebay is a total gamble. I bought it because I'm going out of town for a few days and if I get that replacement coil in time, and if it fits, I'll feel a whole lot better leaving my CO2 system running while I'm gone.

                        Long story short though, the valve we're buying on ebay comes with a 6 watt coil. When I look up that particular pressure vessel though (1/8" npt inlet/outlet, 1/16" orifice, stainless) the catalog says it takes a 10w coil. The 10w coils look a little taller then the 6w coils in the picture though so I'm concerned the 10w coils won't fit. I just need a rep to tell me whether to order a 10w coil or something else.
                        "Do, then talk about it.
                        No do? No talk!!" - Tom Barr

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                        • #13
                          Thanks!! That's some great info. I've been looking for a while and I haven't had any luck. I hope your ebay coil works out.

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                          • #14
                            Keep us tuned in. Hope the 10 watt coil fits.

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                            • #15
                              I'm pretty sure the 10w coils are for Skinner (Parker) 7000 series valves. The valve being sold by SherrodSurplus is a 3000 series valve, and the coil type most likely M1S1 Integrated Molded, 1/4” Tab, 6W, Class B, 110/50 Hz, 120/60 Hz AC as listed on pg 126 of the pdf linked below. The seller states that there is 3M1S1P3 stamped on the coil and shows it in a couple of the pictures, I don't know what the 3 stands for.

                              Also it looks like all 3000 series have a maximum ambient temperature of 68F for continuous duty cycle.

                              http://www.parker.com/literature/Flu...at%2003_08.pdf
                              18g - Otocinclus sp.
                              16g bowfront - T. albonubes "gold", A. dolichopterus, Ps. gertrudae "Aru II"
                              20g long - P. axelrodi, C. macracanthus, H. ocellifer, T. albonubes "gold", Stiphodon sp., Sailfin mollies
                              300g RST - N. fuscotaeniatus, P. taeniolatus, Ps. acei, Cyno sp. "hara", L. caeruleus, S. petricola

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