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  • #61
    Originally posted by Tom Barr View Post
    That's a decent looking system.
    I am not fond of the bubble counters, I ended up making my own large custom bubble counters DIY, using acrylic.

    From there, the rest is diffusion methods and keeping that stuff clean and going well.

    Regards,
    Tom Barr
    It was just easier to order them shipped from Hong Kong. lol

    I have it set up on my 90g running twin XP3's each with a 2" x 24" PVC reactor. Had a difficult time getting enough CO2 in the tank with a single reactor.

    SteveU

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    • #62
      Originally posted by GTR View Post
      It was just easier to order them shipped from Hong Kong. lol

      I have it set up on my 90g running twin XP3's each with a 2" x 24" PVC reactor. Had a difficult time getting enough CO2 in the tank with a single reactor.

      SteveU
      I've found pairs of CO2 diffusers work much better, Amano said the same with larger tanks.

      Regards,
      Tom Barr
      www.BarrReport.com

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      • #63
        Originally posted by eiginh
        *Off topic*
        Weve bee.n talking about regulators a lot and especially Left C's now what about the tank? How does all your tanks look like if you don't mind
        Not to hijack the thread but since you asked:

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        • #64
          Very nice jeff!

          And it wouldn't be hijacking if you have a dual stage regulator and posted pics of your CO2 setup also.
          18g - Otocinclus sp.
          16g bowfront - T. albonubes "gold", A. dolichopterus, Ps. gertrudae "Aru II"
          20g long - P. axelrodi, C. macracanthus, H. ocellifer, T. albonubes "gold", Stiphodon sp., Sailfin mollies
          300g RST - N. fuscotaeniatus, P. taeniolatus, Ps. acei, Cyno sp. "hara", L. caeruleus, S. petricola

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          • #65
            Since you asked

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            • #66
              nice setup!
              18g - Otocinclus sp.
              16g bowfront - T. albonubes "gold", A. dolichopterus, Ps. gertrudae "Aru II"
              20g long - P. axelrodi, C. macracanthus, H. ocellifer, T. albonubes "gold", Stiphodon sp., Sailfin mollies
              300g RST - N. fuscotaeniatus, P. taeniolatus, Ps. acei, Cyno sp. "hara", L. caeruleus, S. petricola

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              • #67
                Just be careful with the bubble counters. I overtightened one after filling it with water and cracked it. So far it's still gastight but I suspect I'll need to swap it out at some point.

                Also, the point about heavy regulators dragging the bottles over is worth repeating. SECURE YOUR BOTTLES!!! We'll just ignore the reasons why I know this...

                -
                S

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by GTR
                  Wonder what it costs to get what's needed connect that to the tank?
                  A brass CGA-320 nipple and nut is around $5 to $20, I believe.

                  Here is some info about Clippard solenoids. They are a little less than $20. You can get one from Rex for about $31.
                  http://www.bestaquariumregulator.com/CO2.html#solenoid

                  Clippard solenoids – part numbers

                  Clippard Solenoid with 1/4" ports:

                  MME-2QDS-W110 or MME-2QDS-D110 (last one uses a DIN connector for AC)

                  MME-2QDS-W110: http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...=MME-2QDS-W110

                  MME-2QDS-D110: http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...=MME-2QDS-D110

                  Clippard Solenoid with 1/8" ports:

                  MME-2PDS-W110 or MME-2PDS-D110 (last one uses a DIN connector for AC)

                  MME-2PDS-W110: http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...=MME-2PDS-W110

                  MME-2PDS-D110: http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...=MME-2PDS-D110


                  Rex's Ghetto Bubble counter – Comes with clamp $9.50

                  Complete packages with Fabco needle valve and two check valves are $53

                  MK I Perma-seal $7

                  Ideal 52-1-12 Needle Valve. $70

                  Fabco NV 55 needle valve. $23

                  I've purchased Swagelok, Nupro, Whitey and Parker metering valves from 99 to $30. Most of them have Vernier handles.

                  Clippard check valve (get two): $14.25 shipped in the US. If ordered with other items the cost of the valve is $12.50

                  You'll need some CO2 tubing. The brass parts for assembly are only a few dollars total.

                  This covers practically everything. It gives you several ways to go. If you can afford the Ideal 52-1-12 Needle Valve, it is a very good one. The Fabco valve is good too but it has tiny #10-32 ports.

                  inkslinger has posted a very good B-2MA2 Swagelok chrome plated brass metering valve that isn't in the catalog. It's $61.50.
                  It looks like this stainless steel one: http://www.swagelok.com/shopping/p_i...ge=SS-2MA2.jpg
                  http://www.barrreport.com/showthread...light=swagelok
                  Last edited by Left C; 12-03-2009, 07:50 PM.

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                  • #69
                    These are 5$ for the solenoid:

                    http://www.ecrater.com/product.php?pid=4592072

                    Not sure how good they are, but likely better than the Milkwaukee and JBJ brands.......

                    1/8" hose barbs, a bit pricy:

                    http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_viewit...content=CO3173

                    Here's an interesting idea:, use air and use the air at night, and CO2 during the day using the same 3 way valve:

                    http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...MME-31PEE-D110
                    Or the 4 way:
                    http://www.clippard.com/store/displa...MME-41PES-W110



                    The regular price for the 110V 1/8" is 19.70$.

                    Regards,
                    Tom Barr
                    www.BarrReport.com

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                    • #70
                      What other items do I need in order to use this metering valve swagelok whitey (SS-0RS2)?

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by eiginh View Post
                        What other items do I need in order to use this metering valve swagelok whitey (SS-0RS2)?
                        Hi eiginh

                        Here's the SS-ORS2 valve: http://www.swagelok.com/search/produ...x?part=SS-ORS2
                        Bonnet valves: http://www.swagelok.com/downloads/we.../MS-01-164.pdf

                        Your valve has 1/8 in. Swagelok Tube Fittings. You can mount it two ways. You can either use 1/8" OD tubing or mount it solidly using either male or female adapters in either brass or stainless steel.



                        brass male: http://www.swagelok.com/search/produ...art=B-2-TA-1-2
                        stainless steel male: http://www.swagelok.com/search/produ...rt=SS-2-TA-1-2

                        brass female: http://www.swagelok.com/search/produ...art=B-2-TA-7-2
                        stainless steel female: http://www.swagelok.com/search/produ...rt=SS-2-TA-7-2

                        The other parts for assembly are pretty straight forward.

                        Left C
                        Last edited by Left C; 12-04-2009, 05:39 AM.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by eiginh
                          Left C, what parts do you use with victor 253a-1993 model? (I think you have more than 1, not sure...) Anyway if you can please list all according to the particular regulator.
                          I just wrote up assembly instructions, but I can't post it yet. It contains too many images for the forum. Tom will have to change the settings.

                          Let me try to send you a PM. It worked.

                          Rex wrote a guide too that may be helpful.
                          http://www.rexgrigg.com/regulator.htm

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                          • #73
                            Parts Used to Build CO2 Regulators Some Different Ways

                            These are the parts & most of the wrenches needed to build a regulator several ways using different solenoids, different adapters, metering valves and with or without a JBJ bubble counter are listed. I wrote them in the order that they are attached.


                            VTS253A-1993 regulator



                            remove the brass 1/4" MPT x 1/4" barbed adapter and discard - 9/16" wrench



                            The brass 1/4" MPT x 1/4" barbed adapter on the regulator that you have to remove is on very tight. A vice is very helpful. You put the hex part of the adapter in a vice and turn the regulator. You don't scratch or damage the regulator this way.

                            This is how I removed it without a vice. I got my 9/16" x 1/2" boxed end wrench and used an open end wrench locked on to the 1/2" side of the boxed wrench. This in essence makes a longer wrench and provides more leverage. I laid the regulator on a rug. Then I put the 9/16" side of the wrench on the barbed adapter and I stood on the regulator to remove the adapter. I had to turn it a little bit at a time and I had to keep getting another "bite" on the adapter, but I got it off.


                            Some regulators don't have barbed adapters. They can have different types of adapters. My Victor VTS253D-320 shows one of the other types of adapters that still has to be removed.



                            This is my Victor VTS253D-320 with a Burkert solenoid, Ideal metering valve, and JBJ bubble counter that I am going to show how to build it. I am also going to show a Clippard solenoid and a Swagelok metering valve that can be used as well. They are going to be shown in the order that they are assembled.



                            Contimued Below
                            Last edited by Left C; 05-01-2011, 11:36 AM.

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                            • #74
                              brass 1/4" MPT x 1/8" MPT hex nipple - 9/16" wrench

                              42-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery26.htm


                              brass 1/8" FPT x 1/8" MPT elbow - 5/8" wrench

                              32-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery12.htm


                              Burkert solenoid


                              or

                              Clippard solenoid - hold in hand or use a 7/8" wrench


                              brass 1/8" MPT x 1/8" MPT hex nipple - 7/16" wrench

                              41-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery24.htm


                              Ideal Metering Valve - 9/16" wrench


                              or

                              Swagelok metering valve


                              brass 1/8" MPT x 1/8" MPT hex nipple - 7/16" wrench

                              41-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery24.htm


                              JBJ bubble counter - tighten by hand
                              brass 12 mm nut on top of JBJ bubble counter - 1/2" or 12 mm wrench



                              Yours should look something like the VTS253D-320 above with your choice of solenoids and metering valves.

                              TOOL LIST
                              a vice is very handy for assembly
                              these are not needed if you have a vice - 9/16" x 1/2" boxed end wrench or 9/16" x 5/8" boxed end wrench
                              5/8" open end wrench
                              7/8" open end wrench (optional)
                              7/16" open or boxed end wrench
                              9/16" open end wrench
                              9/16" boxed end wrench (optional)
                              1/2" or 12 mm open or boxed end wrench
                              regulator nut wrench, 1 1/8" open end wrench, adjustable wrench, pipe wrench, etc.

                              or a combination of 8", 10" and 12" crescent wrenches.


                              Some people use Teflon tape. I use a non hardening pipe joint compound.

                              OATEY 31229 GREAT WHITE Pipe Joint Compound w/Teflon, 1oz. http://www.hardwareandtools.com/Oate...e-6596696.html
                              "Lubricates and seals all threaded joints. White, non-hardening, non-separating, non-toxic paste. Withstands up to 3,000 PSI on gases from -50 to +400 degrees F, and 10,000 PSI on liquids from -50 to +500 degrees F. For use with water, steam, caustic or dilute acid lines of PVC, CPVC, ABS, cycolac, polypropylene, iron, steel or copper."



                              Contimued Below
                              Last edited by Left C; 10-27-2010, 04:09 AM.

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                              • #75
                                Here is some more info concerning regulator connection parts.


                                If you don't need an elbow and JBJ bubble counter, you can rig it different ways.



                                - Use the 1/4" MPT x 1/8" MPT reducer between the regulator and solenoid.

                                42-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery26.htm


                                or

                                - This way requires two parts. Use a 1/4" MPT x 1/8" FPT reducing bushing attached to the regulator.

                                38-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery21.htm


                                and either one of these styles of nipples

                                1/8" MPT x 1/8" MPT hex nipple

                                41-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery24.htm


                                or

                                1/8" MPT nipple




                                Your choice of solenoid.



                                and either one of these styles of nipples

                                1/8" MPT x 1/8" MPT hex nipple

                                41-1: http://bigway.com/CARTgallery24.htm


                                or

                                1/8" MPT nipple



                                Your choice of metering valve


                                1/8" MPT x 1/8" barbed adapter



                                Contimued Below
                                Last edited by Left C; 10-27-2010, 04:13 AM.

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