Yes, I did get them from the Hidden Reef. I also noted that they are somewhat combative. They fight a little with each other over algae wafers sometimes. A few of the larger ones have no problem mixing it up with my fish sometimes.

Are either of you in a local club? I am on the e-mail list for the DVAGA (Delaware Valley Aquatic Gardner's Association), but have not attended a meeting yet. There is one on July 21st which I am going to try and goto.

Cheers!
John